In this episode, we test Kya from Where the Crawdads Sing by Delia Owens, talk to Eric Hanson host of the TV Show Epic Trails, and discuss how to overcome shame.

Eric Hanson is best known as the host for the TV show Epic Trails on Outside TV and Fox Sports. He’s also a writer, outdoor adventure photographer, and outdoor filmmaker whose work has been featured on the Discovery Channel, NBC Universal, and the Weather Channel. You can follow Eric’s work here:

This conversation is about how adventure (outdoor adventure or adventures, say, in Paris) can lead to personal growth and self-discovery, but also the habits and strategies you need to make it in incredibly competitive careers like television and writing. Those strategies by the way, will work in every career too.

Eric is someone I respect for doing the hard, grinding work mostly behind the scenes, who is finally starting to make a name for himself, and now, he’s at a point where he’s really starting to take off. In a few years, he could be a household name. In this interview, we talk about the hard, very risky work it took to get there.

At the end of our episode, Alice and I discuss how to overcome shame and be open, despite the hard parts of your story.

Plus, as always, there’s a free prize related to this episode, which you can get below

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